Friday, February 1, 2008

LEGO 8297 Off Roader, first photos

Pocket-lint went to a Toy Fair and saw in first hand, the current prototype of the upcoming, LEGO TECHNIC 8297 Off Roader set.
Here are copies from the first photos with real bricks. Enjoy! ;)



The Off Roader is a 4x4 truck complete with working doors, motor with piston heads, steering control, cool real headlights, electric powered winch and a motor that raises the suspension up and down so it can drive over obstacles.
See below additional photos with some other details (click over images, for larger versions).




From these, we can already conclude about some questions raised when at the model first 'appearance'.
  • Tires do not seem to be the same size of the huge ones at 8466 (4x4 Off-Roader) anymore.
  • There is in fact a pair cool and shinny PF white headlights. They must be some kind of LEDs, instead of the old fashioned yellow LEGO lamps.
  • Winch is motorized and powerful enough to pull the car
  • Suspension raises up and down controlled by a motor
  • Direction confirms to be controlled by an HoG, now clearly visible on the top of the car

Finally and after a strong defeat of the Orange shades on the poll results, that finished yesterday (but, that's a subject for a further post...), it is with great pleasure that I see several Orange TECHNIC Bent Liftarms present in this Off Roader model (see them at the car seats).
And if I'm not wrong, it is the first time that Orange parts appear into the TECHNIC mainstream models.

25 comments:

Cagri said...

-I'm a little disappointed with the tires.
-Since we have one motor and two electric functions (winch&suspension) we should have a small gearbox system like in the Cherry Picker? Or could we do the same thing with the pole reverser? What about the lights?

Conchas said...

On the previous post where I spoke about this set, there was already something pointing that direction.

"A new hope...
Look at the red shadows bellow the seats (the first from front) which could be a suspicious 'Technic Driving Ring', and the 'Technic Universal Joint' under the rear wheels axis. Both may be signs for the eventual presence of either a gearbox and/or a 4WD transmission. ;)
However is still uncertain if that probable gearbox is used for the tranmission or most likely to switch some motorized functions (e.g. Winch, Suspension, Headlights)!?"

dunx125 said...

Wow, this set looks fantastic. I am planning to buy two of them, as I am needing 8 big wheels for a model I want to make. I really hope these wheels have decent traction, as that is extremely important with mindstorms models. I wonder if Hitechnic are eventually going to make a new IRlink sensor NXT-G block, so that it can also control lights and pole reversers. By the way, are there any new images of the other late 2008 sets? I think I see the edge of one of their boxes in one of these photos, and I would love to see detailed images of them as well.

Conchas said...

I guess new PF Pole Reverser shouldn't be controllable from NXT via IR, as it is just an actuator.
Also believe the lights could "already" controlled via IR with the current NXT-G block, as they should behave similar to a motor. You just need to connect them behind a PF RC Receiver.

Haven't seen yet real photos from the remaining 2nd half 2008 TECHNIC sets.
The box edge you see on the side, is from the already launched Cherry Picker (8292).

AVCampos said...

I'm a bit dissappointed about the tires, too, but afterall it's a little comprehensible: with Power Functions onboard, there wouldn't be room for much expansion on this price tag.
As for the headlights, I agree that they must be LEDs, because of the blueish hue; incandescent bulbs are much more yellowish. But I still haven't figured out how do they connect to the power source.
This is what I think PF is used for: the pole reverser switches the headlights on and off, and the motor goes through a gearbox to split functions between the winch and the suspension.

But still, nothing like sitting back and wait for the actual set to arrive in stores... ;-)

Anonymous said...

The wheels are bigger than its original seeing as its part 2 to 8465 Extreme offroader and not 8466 4x4 off roader, So i would say its a major upgrade

parax said...

IMO: the lights are on when the battery box is on, the pole reverser switches the motor, and on the opposite side a lever switches the gear shift function, between winch and suspension.

Conchas said...

That's what I guess too!
I think the hypothesis from AVC, to be less probable.

AVCampos said...

I still think the pole reverser controls just the lights: the motor can be in an "idle" position when the shifting lever is between the two functions.

Like Eistein said in the intro to Command & Conquer Red Alert... "Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell." =)

P.S. A thought has just occured to me... if the designer responsible for these new sets is a TBs reader, I wonder how hard can he/she be laughing at our attempts of decyphering pictures!

dunx125 said...

Can anyone tell me why transparent Lego stickers always look mauve in photos? I have never understood this....

Conchas said...

Where do you see those transparent stickers?

Anonymous said...

Conchas, transparent stickers are on both sides of the engine, rear end of the fairing; in first photo compare with box, I think they are intended to look like a grille in the engine hood.

Conchas said...

I see now!...
It should be some effect from the flash.

Definitely LEGO has a better photograph machine. ;)

Conchas said...

Alex wrote "As for the headlights, I agree that they must be LEDs, because of the blueish hue; incandescent bulbs are much more yellowish."

They could also be Xenon headlights!... ;D

solic said...

I suppose the tyres are the same as rear tyres in 8284 tractor (94.8 x 44R Balloon).

Conchas said...

That's right!
It is the currently most accepted hypothesis at several forums.

I myself have commented on that at this post on Eurobricks.

dunx125 said...

I don't think the wheels are THAT bad, I was certainly expecting it, because the dune buggy/tractor didn't use 8466's wheels, so its doubtful they would bring back a retired part. For my purpose they are better than then the 8466's, because I am currently making plans to build a giant mobile crane, and if the wheels are to big I would have to make about 90cm long! My main worry about the wheels is that their traction will be bad, but we'll have to see...

P.S - I am really enjoying having a blog about Technic, and its made even better by your regular posts, unlike a lot of Lego blogs I have seen. Keep them coming! :)

Conchas said...

Thanks for the kind words.

Certainly I'll do!

I have tens of ideas listed in a queue, to post and some already written in the 'Drafts'.
Just don't have too much time, and don't want to exhaust everything at once...
You can expect for about 3-4 posts/week for the next months. ;)

The next is ready, and will get live today night (GMT)...

Duncan said...

I have bee ntrying to work out what system the offroader uses for independent suspension. My guess is that it uses the same two pieces ('Technic Steering Arm with 4 Ball Joints (Complete Assembly with Black Base)' (x873cx1) and Technic Steering CV Joint' (x1029) that are used in the Ferraris and the 8466, but I may be wrong. I need more of these two pieces to build a model I am making...

Conchas said...

Yes, so it looks like!

Because if you look close into the picture from the box, you can see the typical three pins inserted into the wheel.

Conchas said...

Better you see on this one (larger).

Anonymous said...

is the offroader a 4x4 ??
i want to make it rc with my bulldozer set
i havent buy the offroader.

jalf said...

its rear wheel drive only, I got the set two days ago, its great, only one set of instructions though, currently trying to find the set for the alternate model, apparently on the lego site, not found them yet...

jurian [nl] said...

can somebody send me fotos from car underside and suspention

send the fotos to v8-power-scania-vabis@hotmail.com

Anonymous said...

I am very disappointed with all of these comments about the new Lego 4 by 4 off Roader. All of you people are driving me crazy about these comments about how bad the tires are. I think all of you people are jealous that you cant build something this cool so you talk about the tires. The Lego people who made this used the perfect tires. The tire have no problems and are the only tire that would look cool and make the car sick. So quit making the Lego people feel bad. If you don't like it don't buy it.

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