Friday, August 19, 2011

NK Concept Car available as a Kit

For those who have expressed their will to buy Nathanaël Kuipers' Concept Car as a kit (Building Instructions and Parts included) you may have here the opportunity...

In order to promote the BI for this model, Nathanaël and Crowkillers decided to put one complete kit for auction at eBay.



Guess it won't be cheap and don't know if other copies will follow (as you know some parts are really rare by now). Take your chance!



If you just want to buy the BI for $15, this is the way to go!


Login and Password for access will be provided after funds have been processed and then sent to the e-mail attached to your PayPal account.


One way or another, I'm sure you will find the way to have your own copy of the most wanted LEGO Technic unofficial set from the moment.

26 comments:

Ondra said...

Nice, but very expensive.I hope there is possibility to transform conception and funtions of this set to official model(Like exclusive etc.).
8070 is nicein some cases great, but this is another dimension of supercars.

santi said...

Well, there is a way. Just post it in lego.cuusoo.com and get enough support. Models that get more than 1000 supporters will be produced officially by LEGO.

Jetro said...

Cuusoo would be nice. However, you now need 10,000 people to support it before the set is made...
http://www.brickjournal.com/view/article/69/

Ondra said...

10 000 votes is impossible, and lego make this model by his own way like last cuusoo model :-P.Some satelite or what was that.

crowkillers said...

I agree 10,000 votes is impossible. And even if by some chance this could get 10,000 votes, I highly doubt that Lego would once again produce parts that are no longer in production... Take the the extreme cruiser for example. They make brand new large panels in black, but put the light blue gray smooth toggle joints on the corners of the windshield...?

Erik said...

while I don't think getting 10k votes is "impossible" for a small brick based model, I do think that it is for a technic MOC especially a large one. That cuusoo thing is a neat gimmicky idea, but obviously it is only for smaller MOCs.

minks502 said...

right now it'S $555.55 with 6 days to go. I'm thinking about putting the parts together and selling a kit.

Conchas said...

@crowkillers

Like it happened to the two models previously selected with Cuusoo, there is always a LEGO Designer in charge to makes changes in order to produtify the model.

In such case probably they would change some parts, like the panels in this case and likely also some techniques/solutions.
Changing the panels, would dramatically change the car aspect though. :P

However I agree with what others said. With 10.000 "votes" required, it seems very unlikely we will see a Tecnhic Cuusoo model, specially a large model like this one...


@minks502

Why would feel the right to do so?
You didn't designed the car, neither the BI... :P
You should leave it for who own the rights of the model.

crowkillers said...

@minks502

If you are planning to do this...

1.) Make sure that you 100% get Josh Delahunty's and Nathanael's permission, otherwise I don't know how you are going to legally supply the instructions....

2.) Make sure that what you are selling is 100% correct in both part and color...

There really isn't a lot of money to be made here especially after you factor in that Ebay takes 9% up to $50 and then you have 4% fees to Paypal for the transaction minus your own time locating the parts, ordering the parts, paying for the parts, and then counting and sorting the parts.

We didn't list this kit to actually make money from it as it was more just a way to promote and market the instructions....

More than likely it will probably sell for the price it is at right now...

@ Conchas

Of the 2 sets that were made by Lego for that cuusoo thing, were either of them actually sold in any stores? And what was the part count? I would imagine that they were probably just small sets?

Conchas said...

@Crowkillers

The first model was sold in Japan. Don't know if it has been sold in stores on just online, but probably also in regular stores.

Yes, they were small models and I think the second model was not released yet.

You may red more about, here.

Erik said...

Was reading on another forum where people are criticizing the intentions of Paul/Nathanael that this set could be built for 200 dollars and who was profiting from this auction. Personally I don't see anyway that it could be possible to build this anywhere near 200 Dollars. I can't even find the tires/covers anywhere. I think people need to come clean if they have issues with what other builders are doing instead of posting their speculations in their own fourms. I just got done reading a bunch of trash posted by guys who have no clue what the truth is or any factual information what so ever.

Conchas said...

Who's profiting or not, is just a matter between Nathanaël, Joshua and Paul. As they have agreed to proceed with this.

The good thing is that these guys really don't need to waste time of their lives, worrying about such "problems"... :D

As Paul wrote, their intention was primarily to give some extra visibility and promote the instructions.

crowkillers said...

Here we go again....

Erik, I got a link to the topic that you are talking about earlier today and also informed Nathanael about it...

Let's get a few things out of the way here...

1.) I am not profiting one cent from hosting or promoting Nathanael's instructions. I am doing it out of respect for Nathanael's work and because he is a good friend. I am also assisting with probblems and trouble shooting building and part issues....

2.) I informed Nathanael that we could probably do well in promoting the instructions by offereing a kit and he gave me the "OK" to go forward with it, so I spent at least 8 hours counting out and double checking the parts, bagging them up, printing out everything, burning the CD and then creating the auction.(This also doesn't count the original time that I spent tracking down these parts) Nathanael doesn't have an Ebay account so this should answer the question of "Why didn't Nathanael sell the kit himself" I however am an established seller on Ebay and do most of my own business outside of my home country...

3.) If I wanted to make money off of selling Lego related things on Ebay, I would just continue to do what I have been doing for years and selling my own designs... Once again, this is how I became established and built my reputation in the first place...

4.) People saying that this set is only $200 worth of parts are correct... Sort of... That is the average price of the parts, but let's be realistic.. If you had ZERO parts and were starting from scratch, how many different sellers would you have to buy parts from, and how many of them would come from how many different countries... So don't forget to add in the shipping ;) Oh yeah.. let's not forget the fact that some of the parts are a little tough to get and you might be waiting a week, or 2, or even a month until you can get al of the needed parts that you have been waiting for...

So yeah, you can probably wait it out for a few months to get the parts at the best price(And a lot of luck) to do this set for $200... Although I still think it is impossible to do from scratch...

With this kit You can get eveything in one shot and start building from the minute that you get it...

5.) Ebay Fees and Paypal Fees are going to be around $80, so knock that from the total...

6.) As far as whatever money is left over for profit will be split... Afterall, I have quite a bit of time and effort involved in thsi kit as well and I would be happy to donate that profit to this very site here...

7.) The funny part about where all of these negative comments are coming from is the fact that these are the same people that 2 years ago questioned my integrity because I had used the old style Differential for my center in my Gallardo model... What does the 8110 set use again...?

How about you guys go build something rather than worry about what we are doing...?

222Doc said...

I find it funny that people are even complaining about making money? Lego out sourced there plants years ago, where the out-rage? If one can make money at something they love, GO FOR IT. What next people, demanding free Lego its my right!? :/

ok rant over I will have a drink.

kennywest said...

I actually placed some bids on the Concept Car at eBay, but people always managed to outbid me :(
So, I decided to buy the parts in several bricklink stores (I am starting from scratch). I expect to get all the parts by the end of the year. I'll keep you posted about all the prices ... including shipping.

Conchas said...

@kennywest

Hummm... that will be an interesting thread to follow! :)

Joshua Delahunty said...

We had several discussions about color and whether to present an official BOM with this model.

I urge everyone to not be hung up on the colors! Use white for the seats, different blues for the headlights, skip the chrome, etc., if you need to.

I can tell you, from what the designer of the model told me, the exact colors are secondary, a flight of fancy; find what works and work with that. That's the core of LEGO and especially TECHNIC: modify and make it your own.

During development, my working copy had 8448 rims and a grey flexible rod along the bottoms of the doorlines, and it looks great.

As soon as he finished it, Martyn Boogaarts -- a friend of mine whose name you might recognize from the LEGO Pinball Machine amongst other feats -- sent me a thank you note for a wonderfully enjoyable build; and then immediately proceeded to modify and fill the chassis with an NXT, sensors, and motors. We got to watch the proceedings via Facebook.

He made it his own, and no one else should be afraid to do the same.

Conchas said...

No I just wish that Nathanël shows us at least stepwise photos on how to transform this car in the Gullwing Doors and Convertible versions, as in his BS folder. :)

Erik said...

Well it cracked the $600 mark with 5 hours still left to go. There appears to be 5 different people who have all bid over $500 on it!

PerryMakes said...

Six bills. Congrats! I jumped in around the $250 mark - not expecting to win - but just to be part of it :)

kennywest said...

Alright, first package arrived today and I started to blog on this (http://kennywest.blogspot.com/search/label/NK%20Concept%20Car). So far EUR 330 worth of parts (which is around $400 I guess). Lego is an expensive hobby :(

Conchas said...

I've finished to build this yesterday. I must say it is an outstanding model!!

Noticed some lack of rigidity on the chassis, because it aims for a modular design, but I know Nathanaël already took care of that aspect, after some improvements.

kennywest said...

I am awaiting the final package containing the 14 red bent 6x4 liftarms. Where can I find these improvements you're talking about? Thanks!

Conchas said...

@kennywest
You should not expect a new set of instructions with such modifications. It would mean to start a completely new BI project, which would take ages to finish...

kennywest said...

No, I didn't expect new instructions. Maybe some pictures or words describing what was improved to the MOC would be nice :)

Conchas said...

@kennywest
I don't have it either. Don't expect it to be that easy.

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