Saturday, October 15, 2011

New images and B-models for 1H2012 sets

Today, finally, the first non-“Confidential” pictures of 1H2012 sets have surfaced! Also, for the first time, we can see what the 9397 Logging Truck looks like. Not only that, but we also get to see what are the B-models for most of the sets (the Logging Truck is again late to the scene). The pictures surfaced at SeTechnic, where you can also find some comprehensive comments regarding them (English translation here). Here is what we can expect from next semester...

9390 Mini Tow Truck

Those who can’t afford an 8110 Mercedes-Benz Unimog U 400 can now have the “zipped” version! On a departure from the tradition of entry-level Technic sets, this one isn’t based on a worm-screw-on-8T-gear mechanism, but instead features functional steering. This, allied with its building simplicity and low price, should provide lots of driving fun for kids and not-kids. For older FOLT’s, more abundance of orange elements is always welcome.

B-Model: Buggy or Formula 1 Car

Too bad the B-model is not a snow plow in the front, built from the cargo bed and the winch... but I guess it’s only a matter of time before someone somewhere makes this modification. I don’t know whether this vehicle is a buggy (large wheels, raised rear suspension), or an F1 car (no cockpit, the 20T gear placed like a driver’s helmet, front and rear wings). Anyway, this model’s function is also steering.

9391 Mini Crane

Looking at the new pictures, I have lost hope on this set having an mLA for pushing the arms that lift the boom. Nonetheless, this set should sell like hotcakes to MOCers because it features the new mini turntable (more on that later) on a low-priced set. Besides the obvious boom lifting mechanism which thankfully doesn’t look too straightforward, the rotation of the superstructure finally isn’t annoyingly manual, instead using a 20T gear driving the mini turntable. Like the “Minimog” above, I wouldn’t be surprised to see people modifying this model to become a mini 8043 Motorized Excavator.

B-Model: Bulldozer

This is a standard bulldozer, with a mechanism for raising/lowering the blade, and a manual ripper in the back. It leaves the mini turntable unused, free for MOCs if you intend to leave the set assembled.

9392 Quad Bike

This set doesn’t bring much new in relation to its immediate predecessors, the 8282 and the 8262: it combines the former’s chain drive with the latter’s suspension. It, however, has the advantage of premiering the small panels in orange. Like the 8051 Motorbike, its stickers feature racing numbers that can be flipped (66/99 in this case) to account for the upside down panels on the B-model.

B-Model: Buggy

Basically, it’s the A-model’s functions in a different body, minus the cylinder engine. I think this is the first time an official model has a gear completely wrapped in chain links.

9394 Jet Plane

I agree with practically everyone when they say this plane’s nose is UGLY! It looks more like a helicopter nose than a plane nose. The wing sweep mechanism appears to work via the sliding black beams along the rear fuselage instead of using LAs.

B-Model: Prop Plane:

A much nicer-looking (at least from this angle) plane, it appears to have at least functional elevators and perhaps propeller (although, being built from a beam and attached by friction pin instead of axle, wouldn’t be too efficient as one). Maybe its landing gear, like the A-model and the main model of 6745 Propeller Power, is also retractable.

9395 Pick-Up Tow Truck

This is a nice-looking tow vehicle, probably inspired, like many people say, by American designs (in Europe, tow trucks are much more usually like lighter versions of the 8109 Flatbed Truck). At this size, price range and the rest of functionalities, I guess a cylinder engine is practically mandatory. Besides that and steering, the only functions I see are a lifting tow fork and a winch, but, like the 8109, hopefully it hides some other nifty mechanism. Given that the part is commonly available in black, I find it inexcusable that the Technic, Axle and Pin Connectors Perpendicular holding the rear view mirrors are grey instead. I guess the “PB” license plate is a point against the theory that Uwe Wabra is the set’s designer, but then again nobody in the Technic Team has a surname beginning with a B...

B-Model: Loading Truck

This is some really weird vehicle, one I have never seen before... it has a lateral lifting platform, which can then rotate via the blue thick beams. The hole in the back of the truck is too narrow for the platform to lower into it. Also, in this model we can clearly see a red Technic Changeover Catch near the middle of the vehicle; it is likely this element is also present on the A-model, which suggests some other, still unseen function... or perhaps it is just meant to switch between the towing fork and the winch, with optional motorisation via 8293.

9397 Logging Truck

The big one! This could be the lovechild of the 8285 Tow Truck and the 8258 Crane Truck. The levers on the sides distribute the M motor power between the outriggers, the arm rotation, and the two sections of the arm. The claw rotation (using the new mini turntable) and opening/closing have their mechanisms adjacent to them. The arm appears to be smaller and lighter than the one on the 8258, which allows it to use an mLA instead of one of the regular LAs, and, as a log handling arm, looks realistic enough. To round up the spec sheet, there appears to be a inline cylinder engine under the bonnet. Like recent Technic trucks, this one lacks rear double wheels, probably for budget reasons. The Logging Truck's functions, general looks, colour scheme and year of release don't look like coincidence, and it sure could use a white bullbar... A nice homage, indeed.

B-Model: So far unknown

Last but not least: so far the one element we know for sure that will debut next year, the mini turntable. Menno Gorter, who we know for his amazing walkers, has zoomed in and enhanced one of the 9397’s images to better see it (as well as an example of the image editing LEGO does: the claw assembly would never be able to tilt forward from that position):

Like speculated, it has an outer diameter of 28 teeth. I made a quick and dirty LDraw doodle to show what it probably looks like:

Of course, we all hope the middle has a pin hole instead of an axle hole. Lots of future possibilities with this new fella!

Update 2011-10-16: I added a few notes to each of the models, plus a few thoughts about the new mini turntable.


minks502 said...

I love the log loading truck especially with the mini LA's and what looks like a new mini turn-able. I wonder if an axle can go through it.

crowkillers said...

New black panels...

21st century Cars said...

I just love the design of the 9397 and 9395 thank you for posting this

KEvron said...

i looked to see if i could spot that gear-in-question on any of the other models, but no go. makes it seem even more unlikely that they're introducing a new turntable. still, it's definitely....something. something about it says differential to me. maybe a diff with an exterior crown gear? we'll find out soon.


santi said...

I still think it's a new turn-table, as minks502 points out, you can also see it in the arm of the logging truck

Junkstyle Gio said...

Thanks for posting the puictures.

The logloader and pick-up truck look good. Maybe a bit too "American"...
Still it's going to be a good first half!

And the mini-mog is cute!

KEvron said...

"in the arm of the logging truck"

ah, so it is, and we get a better view of it. it's settled, then. the "giant mecha" crowd is gonna love it.

can't say i'm overwhelemd by the line-up. the crane is cute. it's got a nice alt, too.


efferman said...

the new small turntable looks nice.
But the thirst thought about the Tow truck B-model was: what is this? never saw in real life something like this. Could this lifting platform rotate to get the payload over the Truck?

Ryan said...

I also believe the new log loader is an hommage to 8285 besides the model of ten years ago!

Allanp said...

9390 looks cool. They have got steering in a tiny frame and it also introduces some new parts in orange.

9391 looks ok, it i a cheap way to get a new part, which is always good!

9392 seems to be a slight improvement on the previous quad, it's chain drive is more authentic.

9394 looks good, but the functions are a bit dissapionting for what looks to be quite a large set and why did it have to be red?

9395 looks like the best of the first half 2012. I'm not a fan of flagship towtrucks, for me they don't offer enough functions to warrant a large model, however this is the perfact size, it looks chunky and solid and seems to have some complexity to. I'll sure be buying this one.

9397 looks like the 8868 but it's crane has problems. The base is way too big, as wide as the hood, so it looks a bit silly, and the two manual functions on the end are a bit meh. The whole thing also looks a bit flimsy. However it does seem to have a decent amount of complexity. It's a nice homage to 8868, but it's just not in the same league.

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Ondra said...

I very like jet plane, model with 50cm is huge.I hope that helicopter in second half will be in same size.

minks502 said...

I'll bet the tow truck cost $80.00 and the log loader cost $110.00, and all others less than $40.00. but who knows?

Conchas said...

It looks to me that we are progressively getting to have a flaship for the 1st and 2nd halves... :)

Yes, it is possible to pass an axle through the new turntable.

@Junkstyle Gio
I think these trucks have an American style, on purpose.
It might be a tentative to boost Technic sales on US market, where these don't perform so well.

Wiseman_2 said...

Yeah, given the steep price of the flagship sets for the last few years, it kind of makes sense to introduce the idea of a "secondary" flagship at a lower price point, but with most of the features you'd tend to expect.

I for one will definitely be getting that Logging Truck. Probably the Pick-Up too.

Anio said...

Plane #9394 :
Lars Krogh Jensen is the deisgner.

A model :
3 fonctions :
- open/close the wings from the back (with a worm gear, I guess)
- control the rear wings with the lever in the cockpit
- landing gear controlled with the axle joiner (knob) on the left underside of the plane

B model :
- it has indeed landing gears : we can see black knob wheels under the blue seat.

Tow truck #9395 :

A model :
- it has indeed a V6. It is possible to see it on the first pic.
- I hope the model has something more interesting than a gearbox to motorize a whinch, which would be kind of meh. :/
I hope there is another "real" function and that the winch is not motorized.

B model :
- pretty innovative. I'm not sure that a model has ever had a plateform hinged on an axle with a worm gear used for another mechanism

Log loader #9397 :
- regarding how the model is built, I think Uwe Wabra is the designer
- the new turntable has 28 teeth, not 24.

Barman said...

Thanks your sharing this.
The 1H2012 looks ok, but I'm not that very excited.
I like the quad. The black and orange reminds me of KTM.

I like the 9397, although it is a bit small.

The new mini turn table is great. Looking forward to be using this part. I also think that it has a axle hole in the middle, so it is possible to make an extra function on the other side.
The large black panels are great as well.

@Conchas, are you gonna do a reverse engineering competition this year from 1 of the 1H2012 models? I have the 9392 Quad already made and want to post photos of it. But if you deside to use this set in the competition, I will wait. We don't want any copycats ;)

mahjqa said...

With your mockup, the gear used is a bevel gear, the same diameter as these:

Menno Gorter said...

I'm pretty sure AVCampos only used a 24t in his mockup because it was easier, since it was in the library. ;-)
Everybody who knows something about Lego gears will be convinced it should be a larger diameter than 24t.
A 24t can not be driven well by a 12t in that position!

Conchas said...

I think Alexandre overlooked the new turntable teeth count, as we already mentioned at an earlier post it should be a 28t.
I'll update the post. Guess he won't mind. :)

Yes I plan to raise another TechReverse competition but it is not yet decided wich model to use.
But if you could hold on it would be great. :)

Conchas said...

Guess the designers, realised on the need for a new and smaller Technic turntable, when they have designed the B-model from the previous Log Loader (8049). :P

Andy Fawcett said...

Regarding 9395, I can only think of one person in the Technic arena with the initials PB... And as far as I know, he doesn't work for LEGO :)

AVCampos said...

Regarding the number of teeth, indeed I thought it was a weird thing to mesh a 12T to a 24T that way and the protrusions in the photo looked further away from the teeth than in the mockup, but didn't think much about that. Anyway, I added the old differential's outer ring (which has 28 teeth) to the sketch to give a better idea about its size.

@Andy Fawcett: Maybe it was a freelance work, like that made by Nathanaƫl Kuipers?

Conchas said...

PB... Indeed! :)
Might be a coincidence, or an homage to the one that first complained because 8081 did not included the "Axle and Pin Connectors Toggle Joint Smooth" in black color. Who knows?... :P

crowkillers said...

LOL... I guess that could be some kind of inside joke... Who knows...

What's even stranger is that the new car that I have been working on is black with an all red chassis...

Jetro said...

What would you prefer, axle hole, pin hole, or something else... ?

Conchas said...

I'd prefer something else!... ;)

AVCampos said...

Supposing you are referring to the hole that goes through the turntable, I'd prefer it to be a pin hole instead of an axle hole: that way, we lose the capability of driving the turntable directly without using the outer teeth, but gain the ability to pass a function (mechanical via an axle or pneumatic via a single hose) through it.
As for "something else", the only possibility I see is a wider hole that allows for an assembly similar to the ones used on the 8258 Crane Truck and the Motorized Excavator, with new, smaller elements. But the available space looks too cramped for that, so I doubt it and stick with the "pin hole" opinion. Anyway, nothing like seeing for oneself when the sets come out...

Parda said...

Nice models, some good sets for beginners, I love the mini "unimog"

Khan said...

About the new mini-turntable, here is a "wish" that I had drawn a few days before we got the new pictures : mini-turntable guesswork
The hole in the middle would not be an axle hole, but rather an axle JOINER hole, that would let you choose wether you'd like to drive the turntable or not.
Also, I imagined a flat side so the turntable could be use as a wheel hub, but now we know this won't be a reality.

Ian said...

Found a pic of the new turntable on brickshelf...

Don't know how he got this pic but it sure looks legitimate!

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